July 30, 2008 - 8:27am
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Voter appeals taking shape for Maricopa County attorney challengers

Gerald Richard and Tim Nelson, the Democrats vying for their party's nomination in the Maricopa County attorney race, faced each other at Central High School Tuesday night at a debate sponsored by the League of Women Voters.

It was again apparent that both Nelson and Richard are close on a number of issues. On topics ranging from warrant enforcement to juvenille justice, human smuggling and the decriminalization of marijuana (both said they're vehemently opposed), the differences in their views most frequently came down to nuance rather than substance. 

Dan Saban, the Mesa Police Department veteran and former chief of police in Buckeye, left halfway through, proclaiming his ambivalence.

"It's a tough choice," he said, praising both as qualified and stating his confidence that the eventual primary winner will beat incumbent Andrew Thomas.

Throughout the debate, both emphasized the strengths of their resumes, and more sharply defined themselves as candidates.

Richard, who frequently uses personal anecdotes to make a point or illustrate his relevant experience, drew upon a wealth of such recollections to show himself tough on crime.

He said he had prosecuted criminals to the fullest extent of the law for violent crime, or even the suggestion of violence. One person, said Richard, was sentenced to over 10 years for stealing a bicycle at knife-point.

"I don't see it as any different from a carjacking," he said. Richard also recalled prosecuting one man for threatening his wife with an iron. "'But I didn't use it,'" he remembered the man saying. That didn't matter - Richard said even the threat was enough to qualify as domestic violence, for which he says he has a "zero tolerance" policy.

He also played up his leadership credentials, pointing out that the the administrative support division of the Phoenix Police Department, for which Richard served as director, has a budget of $67 million, which is only about $10 million less than the operating budget for the county attorney's office.

Tim Nelson again portrayed himself as having "the most courtroom experience" of either Richard or Andrew Thomas, and said his time in private practice and as general counsel to Gov. Janet Napolitano made him the more qualified of the two Democratic candidates.  

He pointed to his long list of endorsements - especially those from law enforcement - as a sign that he had the confidence of the state's Democratic Party establishment. To underscore the point, the Nelson table outside the debate was stacked with the campaign's first direct mail piece, which features the words "An important message from Governor Janet Napolitano" on its front side with a large picture of the popular governor.

During his closing remarks, Nelson was blunt about one of his biggest advantages: fundraising. He said that he has a robust "war chest" - at latest count, nearly $180,000 - and that money will be needed to combat Thomas, who brought in $200,000 from his last run.

Nelson identified himself as the candidate with the better resources to compete with Thomas, warning that Richard doesn't have the ability to match him financially. Indicating Richard, Nelson said his rival will have "almost nothing in reserve" for the general election matchup. Gerald Richard had $40,000 cash on hand at the beginning of June.

EVAN BROWN is a PolitickerAZ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at evan.brown@politickeraz.com.

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Gerald Richard wins our Vote!


It's not about the money in a campaign war chest -- it's about who is the more experienced handling large budgets and large groups of people and employees. Who has the ability to train and educate the prosecutors so thousands aren't being sent to prison by the "green" and inexperienced prosecutors under Thomas. It's easy to take down the most vulnerable in our community -- women and children, while ignoring the truly violent criminals.

Gerald Richard has the strength, energy and drive to direct it to the work that needs to be done cleaning up the mess left by Thomas. His focus will be on the job, rather than shallow media events that deceive the public on the real issues in the County.

Gerald Richard has our vote for County Attorney!

08/01/08 12:58 am

Kilroy


I am not a Richard troll but rather a supporter tired of Nelson's campaign of I have more money vote for me. Mr. Kilroy as a trial attorney with 20 years experience trust me I pay attention and note phrases that are repeated. There is no mistake that Nelson makes mention of beating well funded opponents implying not particulary cleverly that he beats the best. This is further shown by his statement of leading a great private firm again with the implication that really good lawyers work at such firms. Nelson claims to want to provide leadership of the prosecutors in the County Attorneys office but is clear that he views them as second class lawyers compared to his friends in the big firms. This lack of respect and experience in the practice of Criminal law will lead to more of the same politization that has marked the Thomas administration. It is fun to see Kilroy issue a talking point in his own name and with none of his usual exclamation points. Richard will lead and will instantly both respect and have the respect of his line attorneys.

07/31/08 6:27 pm

Wow, Josh came and commented


Wow, Josh came and commented himself. Richard's troll must have really hit a nerve.

What happened Josh? Were you not able to get one of your staff and volunteer trolls to post a response for you?

07/31/08 12:09 pm

Tim Nelson's respect for public defenders


I have a policy against commenting on articles but I simply can't let Rolly's uninformed comment about pulic dfenders go unanswered. Tim's point isn't that it is odd that public defenders win because they are terrible lawyers. Tim's point is that it is unusual for public defenders to win 30% of their cases because the County Attorney's Office gets to choose the cases it prosecutes and a well-functioning CAO would focus on cases where they could better establish guilt.

Tim is criticizing Thomas' judgement, not the public defenders who work hard to ensure that America's promise of due process for all is a reality. Rolly should pay more attention to what is actually said before he posts.

07/30/08 10:34 pm

There were two canidates at the debate.


Typical of a Nelson fan that Jack would assume that Thomas employee Mr. Lottstein was there to scout Nelson. Gerald Richard ruled in the debate and would be the much stronger canidate. Lets see actually knows what prosecuting criminals involves and no ACLU baggage. Nelson fans more money does not equal better canidate just more fat cats that will be owed political favors when Nelson eventually runs for Governor. Nelson fans this is a primary election not a coronation for your spoiled rich boy.

07/30/08 9:20 pm

Nelson's campaign Stooges ruling the comments.


Last night's debate featured an inspiring call to action by Gerald Richard in his closing remarks and the usual Nelson closing of all of Janet's friends like me and gave me money. We are voting for a leader not a fund raiser. Nelson repeated his usual elitist argument that he beats well funded opponents and the County Attorney can not beat the Public Defenders. If Nelson knew or cared about criminal law he would realize the Public Defenders Office is filled with dedicated well trained attorneys. Nelson looks down his nose at those he purports to want to lead. Those that devote their lives to criminal work are often great trial attorneys but Nelson surrounded by his rich friends ignores that truth.

07/30/08 7:24 pm

I was so sad to miss this


I was so sad to miss this debate! Although, I have heard them both speak, and am consistently impressed with Tim Nelson and his credentials. I'm very excited to get Andrew Thomas OUT of there!

07/30/08 3:38 pm

Debate


It's great to hear people point to Thomas' behavior and yell "The emperor has no clothes!". Tim Nelson is definitely the guy to take on Thomas in November. His experience and resources will send Thomas packing!

07/30/08 3:00 pm

Debate


It's great to hear people point to Thomas' behavior and yell "The emperor has no clothes!". Tim Nelson is definitely the guy to take on Thomas in November. His experience and resources will send Thomas packing!

07/30/08 3:00 pm

I definitely thought Tim


I definitely thought Tim Nelson won this debate. He's by far the stronger candidate and the bigger challenge to Andy Thomas--That's why Thomas' cronies were there last night studying Tim Nelson.

07/30/08 2:49 pm

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